Obama will use spring summit to bring Cuba in from the cold

[Archangel]

Obama will use spring summit to bring Cuba in from the cold
US companies are queuing up as the president moves to ease restrictions
on travel and trade, raising hopes of warmer relations and an end to the
embargo

President Barack Obama is poised to offer an olive branch to Cuba in an
effort to repair the US's tattered reputation in Latin America.
The White House has moved to ease some travel and trade restrictions as
a cautious first step towards better ties with Havana, raising hopes of
an eventual lifting of the four-decade-old economic embargo. Several
Bush-era controls are expected to be relaxed in the run-up to next
month's Summit of the Americas in Trinidad and Tobago to gild the
president's regional debut and signal a new era of "Yankee" cooperation.
The administration has moved to ease draconian travel controls and lift
limits on cash remittances that Cuban-Americans can send to the island,
a lifeline for hundreds of thousands of families.
"The effect on ordinary Cubans will be fairly significant. It will
improve things and be very welcome," said a western diplomat in Havana.
The changes would reverse hardline Bush policies but not fundamentally
alter relations between the superpower and the island, he added. "It
just takes us back to the 1990s."


http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/mar/08/cuba-obama-administration

CHANGE YOU CAN COUNT ON!!

ARCHANGEL

[Patriot Games]

Post by Archangel
Obama will use spring summit to bring Cuba in from the cold

Obama will SURRENDER to the Communists.

Post by Archangel
President Barack Obama is poised to... ...ease some... ...trade restrictions...
... Several Bush-era controls are expected to be relaxed...

Whoa! Not so fast.

Relaxed? NO.

Eliminated? YES.

Because Cuba is a deadbeat Commie nation they were REQUIRED to pay IN
ADVANCE for food we sold them.

Buckwheat will now LET THEM OWE US.

Post by Archangel
CHANGE YOU CAN COUNT ON!!

Surrender you can count on!

[AnAmericanCitizen]

Post by Patriot Games

Post by Archangel
Obama will use spring summit to bring Cuba in from the cold

Obama will SURRENDER to the Communists.

Post by Archangel
President Barack Obama is poised to... ...ease some... ...trade restrictions...
... Several Bush-era controls are expected to be relaxed...

Whoa! Not so fast.
Relaxed? NO.
Eliminated? YES.
Because Cuba is a deadbeat Commie nation they were REQUIRED to pay IN
ADVANCE for food we sold them.
Buckwheat will now LET THEM OWE US.

Post by Archangel
CHANGE YOU CAN COUNT ON!!

Surrender you can count on!

As we're rapidly finding out....this administration may be moving fast but they sure
are getting a lot of things wrong. Does anybody there know anything?....AAC


As a perceptive person once said about nationalized health care:
"You would have the efficiency of the Post Office coupled with the
compassion of the IRS."...br549

[Patriot Games]

On Tue, 10 Mar 2009 16:01:29 -0700, AnAmericanCitizen

Post by AnAmericanCitizen

Post by Patriot Games

Post by Archangel
Obama will use spring summit to bring Cuba in from the cold

Obama will SURRENDER to the Communists.

Post by Archangel
President Barack Obama is poised to... ...ease some... ...trade restrictions...
... Several Bush-era controls are expected to be relaxed...

Whoa! Not so fast.
Relaxed? NO.
Eliminated? YES.
Because Cuba is a deadbeat Commie nation they were REQUIRED to pay IN
ADVANCE for food we sold them.
Buckwheat will now LET THEM OWE US.

Post by Archangel
CHANGE YOU CAN COUNT ON!!

Surrender you can count on!

As we're rapidly finding out....this administration may be moving fast but they sure
are getting a lot of things wrong. Does anybody there know anything?....AAC

I think its a HUGE ERROR to attribute these things to mistakes.

He is intentionally surrendering to Communists and Socialists at every
turn.

[AnAmericanCitizen]

Post by Patriot Games

Post by AnAmericanCitizen
As we're rapidly finding out....this administration may be moving fast but they sure
are getting a lot of things wrong. Does anybody there know anything?....AAC

I think its a HUGE ERROR to attribute these things to mistakes.
He is intentionally surrendering to Communists and Socialists at every
turn.

[Patriot Games]

On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 16:26:29 -0700, AnAmericanCitizen

Post by Patriot Games

Post by AnAmericanCitizen
As we're rapidly finding out....this administration may be moving fast but they sure
are getting a lot of things wrong. Does anybody there know anything?....AAC

I think its a HUGE ERROR to attribute these things to mistakes.
He is intentionally surrendering to Communists and Socialists at every
turn.

This really goes back to JFK who was the first to surrender to Cuba...

Seriously, how hard could it have been to sweep that little island,
airdrop a facsimile gov't, and move on to enjoying a fine Cohiba?

I hate going conspiratorial but its pretty clear we struck a deal with
somebody somewhere over Cuba. We'd let 'em be Commies if they didn't
ever get uppity in exchange for who-knows-what...

(A few Democrats, the few who aren't totally worthless, have
demonstrated personal courage yet when having to step up to a higher
level they folded. JFK was a personally courageous man but when had
to step up to the Oval Office and Russia and Cuba he collapsed giving
us humiliation to the Soviets and surrender to the Cubans. And Carter
displayed a wee little bit of personal courage in his early life but
when had to step up to the Oval Office and the Oil Industry and Iran
and the Saudis he collapsed giving us massive surrender to the Saudis,
the Oil Industry and the Iranians.)

I have no problem with normalizing relations with Cuba. We have
mostly normal relations with other far worse countries.

Sure, we should continue to cheerlead our basic ideals (Constitution,
freedom, liberty, voting, etc.) but when we slap economic sanctions on
a country all it does is punish the citizens. Has that EVER worked?
50 years later is hasn't worked in Cuba. 40 Years later it hasn't
worked with Iran.

We have this misguided notion that because WE stood up and revolted
and won our freedom that others will do the same IF we squeeze them
and/or help them. Obviously squeezing them doesn't work.... The last
time helping them worked was Afghanistan. (Unfortunately, the
Democrats were supporting the Soviet Communists on that one, as they
so often do.)

However, normalizing relations with Cuba DOES NOT mean they get to run
up a tab! And THAT is the centerpiece of Obama's Cuba Plan. The
simple restriction we have on them now is if ya'll want 100 tons of
wheat you can have 100 tons of wheat, at a discount too, BUT YOU GOTTA
PAY FOR IT FIRST.

This concept is also known as "business."

I think Buckwheat has made it abundantly clear that his definition of
"business" does NOT include ANY basic capitalist concepts at all....

[AnAmericanCitizen]

Darn it, PG, you're my favorite poster when you submit offerings like this. I
sometimes wonder why you play the games that others needle you into....AAC

Post by Patriot Games
On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 16:26:29 -0700, AnAmericanCitizen

Post by Patriot Games

Post by AnAmericanCitizen
As we're rapidly finding out....this administration may be moving fast but they sure
are getting a lot of things wrong. Does anybody there know anything?....AAC

I think its a HUGE ERROR to attribute these things to mistakes.
He is intentionally surrendering to Communists and Socialists at every
turn.

This really goes back to JFK who was the first to surrender to Cuba...
Seriously, how hard could it have been to sweep that little island,
airdrop a facsimile gov't, and move on to enjoying a fine Cohiba?
I hate going conspiratorial but its pretty clear we struck a deal with
somebody somewhere over Cuba. We'd let 'em be Commies if they didn't
ever get uppity in exchange for who-knows-what...
(A few Democrats, the few who aren't totally worthless, have
demonstrated personal courage yet when having to step up to a higher
level they folded. JFK was a personally courageous man but when had
to step up to the Oval Office and Russia and Cuba he collapsed giving
us humiliation to the Soviets and surrender to the Cubans. And Carter
displayed a wee little bit of personal courage in his early life but
when had to step up to the Oval Office and the Oil Industry and Iran
and the Saudis he collapsed giving us massive surrender to the Saudis,
the Oil Industry and the Iranians.)
I have no problem with normalizing relations with Cuba. We have
mostly normal relations with other far worse countries.
Sure, we should continue to cheerlead our basic ideals (Constitution,
freedom, liberty, voting, etc.) but when we slap economic sanctions on
a country all it does is punish the citizens. Has that EVER worked?
50 years later is hasn't worked in Cuba. 40 Years later it hasn't
worked with Iran.
We have this misguided notion that because WE stood up and revolted
and won our freedom that others will do the same IF we squeeze them
and/or help them. Obviously squeezing them doesn't work.... The last
time helping them worked was Afghanistan. (Unfortunately, the
Democrats were supporting the Soviet Communists on that one, as they
so often do.)
However, normalizing relations with Cuba DOES NOT mean they get to run
up a tab! And THAT is the centerpiece of Obama's Cuba Plan. The
simple restriction we have on them now is if ya'll want 100 tons of
wheat you can have 100 tons of wheat, at a discount too, BUT YOU GOTTA
PAY FOR IT FIRST.
This concept is also known as "business."
I think Buckwheat has made it abundantly clear that his definition of
"business" does NOT include ANY basic capitalist concepts at all....

[Patriot Games]

On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 17:31:05 -0700, AnAmericanCitizen

Post by AnAmericanCitizen
Darn it, PG, you're my favorite poster when you submit offerings like this. I
sometimes wonder why you play the games that others needle you into....AAC

I have a soiled moral character causing me to be prone to those
games... ;)

Back in 2004 a reporter asked Howeird 'The Scream' Dean about Russian
nuclear weapons and disarmament. He (essentially) said we should pay
them to reduce their nuclear inventory.

(Obviously Democrats think its their money and NOT "The People's"
money...)

Dean was entirely too stupid to realize that we'd be paying them
forever to do something they have no reason to do so long as we
continue to pay them to pretend to do it!

Its the same thing with Obama and Cuba, but there's a twist this time
around. Obviously Mr. Greenjeans is NOT gonna ship 100 tons of wheat
to Cuba because Mr. Greenjeans is a farmer of unsoiled moral
character. Mr. Greenjeans is gonna want to get PAID. Which means
Buckwheat will have to pay him. Which means BUCKWHEAT WILL CONTROL
THE PRICES........

We're seeing a very clever implementation of Socialism. Very sneaky.

Communists just take over the farm and own it.

South American Socialists just take over the total management of the
farm and own the PRODUCT.

Our NEW, Americanized version of Socialism has The State CONTROLLING
the PRODUCTS (wheat, capital, banks, assets, etc.)

Very sneaky, and he's getting away with it....

Post by AnAmericanCitizen

Post by Patriot Games
On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 16:26:29 -0700, AnAmericanCitizen

Post by Patriot Games

Post by AnAmericanCitizen
As we're rapidly finding out....this administration may be moving fast but they sure
are getting a lot of things wrong. Does anybody there know anything?....AAC

I think its a HUGE ERROR to attribute these things to mistakes.
He is intentionally surrendering to Communists and Socialists at every
turn.

This really goes back to JFK who was the first to surrender to Cuba...
Seriously, how hard could it have been to sweep that little island,
airdrop a facsimile gov't, and move on to enjoying a fine Cohiba?
I hate going conspiratorial but its pretty clear we struck a deal with
somebody somewhere over Cuba. We'd let 'em be Commies if they didn't
ever get uppity in exchange for who-knows-what...
(A few Democrats, the few who aren't totally worthless, have
demonstrated personal courage yet when having to step up to a higher
level they folded. JFK was a personally courageous man but when had
to step up to the Oval Office and Russia and Cuba he collapsed giving
us humiliation to the Soviets and surrender to the Cubans. And Carter
displayed a wee little bit of personal courage in his early life but
when had to step up to the Oval Office and the Oil Industry and Iran
and the Saudis he collapsed giving us massive surrender to the Saudis,
the Oil Industry and the Iranians.)
I have no problem with normalizing relations with Cuba. We have
mostly normal relations with other far worse countries.
Sure, we should continue to cheerlead our basic ideals (Constitution,
freedom, liberty, voting, etc.) but when we slap economic sanctions on
a country all it does is punish the citizens. Has that EVER worked?
50 years later is hasn't worked in Cuba. 40 Years later it hasn't
worked with Iran.
We have this misguided notion that because WE stood up and revolted
and won our freedom that others will do the same IF we squeeze them
and/or help them. Obviously squeezing them doesn't work.... The last
time helping them worked was Afghanistan. (Unfortunately, the
Democrats were supporting the Soviet Communists on that one, as they
so often do.)
However, normalizing relations with Cuba DOES NOT mean they get to run
up a tab! And THAT is the centerpiece of Obama's Cuba Plan. The
simple restriction we have on them now is if ya'll want 100 tons of
wheat you can have 100 tons of wheat, at a discount too, BUT YOU GOTTA
PAY FOR IT FIRST.
This concept is also known as "business."
I think Buckwheat has made it abundantly clear that his definition of
"business" does NOT include ANY basic capitalist concepts at all....

[Kickin' Ass and Takin' Names]

Post by Archangel
Obama will use spring summit to bring Cuba in from the cold
US companies are queuing up as the president moves to ease restrictions
on travel and trade, raising hopes of warmer relations and an end to the
embargo
President Barack Obama is poised to offer an olive branch to Cuba in an
effort to repair the US's tattered reputation in Latin America.
The White House has moved to ease some travel and trade restrictions as
a cautious first step towards better ties with Havana, raising hopes of
an eventual lifting of the four-decade-old economic embargo. Several
Bush-era controls are expected to be relaxed in the run-up to next
month's Summit of the Americas in Trinidad and Tobago to gild the
president's regional debut and signal a new era of "Yankee" cooperation.
The administration has moved to ease draconian travel controls and lift
limits on cash remittances that Cuban-Americans can send to the island,
a lifeline for hundreds of thousands of families.
"The effect on ordinary Cubans will be fairly significant. It will
improve things and be very welcome," said a western diplomat in Havana.
The changes would reverse hardline Bush policies but not fundamentally
alter relations between the superpower and the island, he added. "It
just takes us back to the 1990s."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/mar/08/cuba-obama-administration
CHANGE YOU CAN COUNT ON!!
ARCHANGEL

This thread is amazing -- a gaggle of rightwingnutters in a circle
jerk!!!