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SON OF HARRY HOPE
2006-09-06 22:06:38 UTC
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Jewish man removed from airplane for praying

CBC News

Some fellow passengers are questioning why an Orthodox Jewish man was
removed from an Air Canada Jazz flight in Montreal last week for
praying.

The man was a passenger on a Sept. 1 flight from Montreal to New York
City when the incident happened.

The airplane was heading toward the runway at the Pierre Elliott
Trudeau International Airport when eyewitnesses said the Orthodox man
began to pray.

"He was clearly a Hasidic Jew," said Yves Faguy, a passenger seated
nearby. "He had some sort of cover over his head. He was reading from
a book.

"He wasn't exactly praying out loud but he was lurching back and
forth," Faguy added.

The action didn't seem to bother anyone, Faguy said, but a flight
attendant approached the man and told him his praying was making other
passengers nervous.

"The attendant actually recognized out loud that he wasn't a Muslim
and that she was sorry for the situation but they had to ask him to
leave," Faguy said.

The man, who spoke neither English nor French, was escorted off the
airplane.

Air Canada Jazz termed the situation "delicate," but says it received
more than one complaint about the man's behaviour.

The crew had to act in the interest of the majority of passengers,
said Jazz spokeswoman Manon Stewart.

"The passenger did not speak English or French, so we really had no
choice but to return to the gate to secure a translator," she said.

The airline is not saying if the man was told he was not allowed to
pray, but a spokesperson said the man was back on board the next
flight to New York.

Jewish leaders in Montreal criticized the move as insensitive, saying
the flight attendants should have explained to the other passengers
that the man was simply praying and doing no harm.

Hasidic Rabbi Ronny Fine said he often prays on airplanes, but
typically only gets curious stares.

"If it's something that you're praying in your own seat and not taking
over the whole plane, I don't think it should be a problem," said
Fine.

The Jewish group B'nai Brith Canada has offered to help give Air
Canada crews sensitivity training

"A fool and his money are soon elected."
--Will Rogers (1879-1935) US actor, humorist
Roger
2006-09-06 22:42:25 UTC
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The terrorists have won.
Post by SON OF HARRY HOPE
Jewish man removed from airplane for praying
CBC News
Some fellow passengers are questioning why an Orthodox Jewish man was
removed from an Air Canada Jazz flight in Montreal last week for
praying.
The man was a passenger on a Sept. 1 flight from Montreal to New York
City when the incident happened.
The airplane was heading toward the runway at the Pierre Elliott
Trudeau International Airport when eyewitnesses said the Orthodox man
began to pray.
"He was clearly a Hasidic Jew," said Yves Faguy, a passenger seated
nearby. "He had some sort of cover over his head. He was reading from
a book.
"He wasn't exactly praying out loud but he was lurching back and
forth," Faguy added.
The action didn't seem to bother anyone, Faguy said, but a flight
attendant approached the man and told him his praying was making other
passengers nervous.
"The attendant actually recognized out loud that he wasn't a Muslim
and that she was sorry for the situation but they had to ask him to
leave," Faguy said.
The man, who spoke neither English nor French, was escorted off the
airplane.
Air Canada Jazz termed the situation "delicate," but says it received
more than one complaint about the man's behaviour.
The crew had to act in the interest of the majority of passengers,
said Jazz spokeswoman Manon Stewart.
"The passenger did not speak English or French, so we really had no
choice but to return to the gate to secure a translator," she said.
The airline is not saying if the man was told he was not allowed to
pray, but a spokesperson said the man was back on board the next
flight to New York.
Jewish leaders in Montreal criticized the move as insensitive, saying
the flight attendants should have explained to the other passengers
that the man was simply praying and doing no harm.
Hasidic Rabbi Ronny Fine said he often prays on airplanes, but
typically only gets curious stares.
"If it's something that you're praying in your own seat and not taking
over the whole plane, I don't think it should be a problem," said
Fine.
The Jewish group B'nai Brith Canada has offered to help give Air
Canada crews sensitivity training
"A fool and his money are soon elected."
--Will Rogers (1879-1935) US actor, humorist
l***@cs.com
2006-09-06 23:07:01 UTC
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Post by SON OF HARRY HOPE
Jewish man removed from airplane for praying
"He was clearly a Hasidic Jew," said Yves Faguy, a passenger seated
nearby. "He had some sort of cover over his head. He was reading from
a book.
"He wasn't exactly praying out loud but he was lurching back and
forth," Faguy added.
What's the deal about rocking back and forth when praying?
Any historical basis for the habituation?
Post by SON OF HARRY HOPE
The Jewish group B'nai Brith Canada has offered to help give Air
Canada crews sensitivity training
I'l bet.
Ramon F Herrera
2006-09-07 02:46:30 UTC
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Post by l***@cs.com
What's the deal about rocking back and forth when praying?
Any historical basis for the habituation?
I don't mean to be disrespectful, but the one explanation that fits the
oscillatory movement perfectly is to prevent the praying person from
falling asleep.

Seriously, those monotonous and almost hypnotic cadences are the best
known cure for insomia.

-Ramon
k***@hotmail.com
2006-09-06 23:46:12 UTC
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OH LOL!!!


He was messed with because he was Brown and didnt speak english! More
and more reason for security to immediatly arrest him. Welcome to Bush
World! if you're not white, english, and carrying a cross, you're
assumed terrorist!
Post by SON OF HARRY HOPE
Jewish man removed from airplane for praying
CBC News
Some fellow passengers are questioning why an Orthodox Jewish man was
removed from an Air Canada Jazz flight in Montreal last week for
praying.
The man was a passenger on a Sept. 1 flight from Montreal to New York
City when the incident happened.
The airplane was heading toward the runway at the Pierre Elliott
Trudeau International Airport when eyewitnesses said the Orthodox man
began to pray.
"He was clearly a Hasidic Jew," said Yves Faguy, a passenger seated
nearby. "He had some sort of cover over his head. He was reading from
a book.
"He wasn't exactly praying out loud but he was lurching back and
forth," Faguy added.
The action didn't seem to bother anyone, Faguy said, but a flight
attendant approached the man and told him his praying was making other
passengers nervous.
"The attendant actually recognized out loud that he wasn't a Muslim
and that she was sorry for the situation but they had to ask him to
leave," Faguy said.
The man, who spoke neither English nor French, was escorted off the
airplane.
Air Canada Jazz termed the situation "delicate," but says it received
more than one complaint about the man's behaviour.
The crew had to act in the interest of the majority of passengers,
said Jazz spokeswoman Manon Stewart.
"The passenger did not speak English or French, so we really had no
choice but to return to the gate to secure a translator," she said.
The airline is not saying if the man was told he was not allowed to
pray, but a spokesperson said the man was back on board the next
flight to New York.
Jewish leaders in Montreal criticized the move as insensitive, saying
the flight attendants should have explained to the other passengers
that the man was simply praying and doing no harm.
Hasidic Rabbi Ronny Fine said he often prays on airplanes, but
typically only gets curious stares.
"If it's something that you're praying in your own seat and not taking
over the whole plane, I don't think it should be a problem," said
Fine.
The Jewish group B'nai Brith Canada has offered to help give Air
Canada crews sensitivity training
"A fool and his money are soon elected."
--Will Rogers (1879-1935) US actor, humorist
Roger
2006-09-07 05:20:40 UTC
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Post by k***@hotmail.com
OH LOL!!!
He was messed with because he was Brown and didnt speak english! More
and more reason for security to immediatly arrest him. Welcome to Bush
World! if you're not white, english, and carrying a cross, you're
assumed terrorist!
By their "logic," Jesus would be a terrorist suspect.
Post by k***@hotmail.com
Post by SON OF HARRY HOPE
Jewish man removed from airplane for praying
CBC News
Some fellow passengers are questioning why an Orthodox Jewish man was
removed from an Air Canada Jazz flight in Montreal last week for
praying.
The man was a passenger on a Sept. 1 flight from Montreal to New York
City when the incident happened.
The airplane was heading toward the runway at the Pierre Elliott
Trudeau International Airport when eyewitnesses said the Orthodox man
began to pray.
"He was clearly a Hasidic Jew," said Yves Faguy, a passenger seated
nearby. "He had some sort of cover over his head. He was reading from
a book.
"He wasn't exactly praying out loud but he was lurching back and
forth," Faguy added.
The action didn't seem to bother anyone, Faguy said, but a flight
attendant approached the man and told him his praying was making other
passengers nervous.
"The attendant actually recognized out loud that he wasn't a Muslim
and that she was sorry for the situation but they had to ask him to
leave," Faguy said.
The man, who spoke neither English nor French, was escorted off the
airplane.
Air Canada Jazz termed the situation "delicate," but says it received
more than one complaint about the man's behaviour.
The crew had to act in the interest of the majority of passengers,
said Jazz spokeswoman Manon Stewart.
"The passenger did not speak English or French, so we really had no
choice but to return to the gate to secure a translator," she said.
The airline is not saying if the man was told he was not allowed to
pray, but a spokesperson said the man was back on board the next
flight to New York.
Jewish leaders in Montreal criticized the move as insensitive, saying
the flight attendants should have explained to the other passengers
that the man was simply praying and doing no harm.
Hasidic Rabbi Ronny Fine said he often prays on airplanes, but
typically only gets curious stares.
"If it's something that you're praying in your own seat and not taking
over the whole plane, I don't think it should be a problem," said
Fine.
The Jewish group B'nai Brith Canada has offered to help give Air
Canada crews sensitivity training
"A fool and his money are soon elected."
--Will Rogers (1879-1935) US actor, humorist
r wiley
2006-09-07 18:23:04 UTC
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Post by Roger
By their "logic," Jesus would be a terrorist suspect.
Did you forget he was executed for defying the ruling class?

rw
Roger
2006-09-07 23:15:35 UTC
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Post by r wiley
Post by Roger
By their "logic," Jesus would be a terrorist suspect.
Did you forget he was executed for defying the ruling class?
Nope.

r wiley
2006-09-07 02:36:14 UTC
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Post by SON OF HARRY HOPE
Jewish man removed from airplane for praying
CBC News
Some fellow passengers are questioning why an Orthodox Jewish man was
removed from an Air Canada Jazz flight in Montreal last week for
praying.
The man was a passenger on a Sept. 1 flight from Montreal to New York
City when the incident happened.
The airplane was heading toward the runway at the Pierre Elliott
Trudeau International Airport when eyewitnesses said the Orthodox man
began to pray.
"He was clearly a Hasidic Jew," said Yves Faguy, a passenger seated
nearby. "He had some sort of cover over his head. He was reading from
a book.
"He wasn't exactly praying out loud but he was lurching back and
forth," Faguy added.
The action didn't seem to bother anyone, Faguy said, but a flight
attendant approached the man and told him his praying was making other
passengers nervous.
"The attendant actually recognized out loud that he wasn't a Muslim
and that she was sorry for the situation but they had to ask him to
leave," Faguy said.
The man, who spoke neither English nor French, was escorted off the
airplane.
Air Canada Jazz termed the situation "delicate," but says it received
more than one complaint about the man's behaviour.
The crew had to act in the interest of the majority of passengers,
said Jazz spokeswoman Manon Stewart.
"The passenger did not speak English or French, so we really had no
choice but to return to the gate to secure a translator," she said.
The airline is not saying if the man was told he was not allowed to
pray, but a spokesperson said the man was back on board the next
flight to New York.
Jewish leaders in Montreal criticized the move as insensitive, saying
the flight attendants should have explained to the other passengers
that the man was simply praying and doing no harm.
Hasidic Rabbi Ronny Fine said he often prays on airplanes, but
typically only gets curious stares.
"If it's something that you're praying in your own seat and not taking
over the whole plane, I don't think it should be a problem," said
Fine.
The Jewish group B'nai Brith Canada has offered to help give Air
Canada crews sensitivity training
"A fool and his money are soon elected."
--Will Rogers (1879-1935) US actor, humorist
Mighty nervy of the Canucks. The Jews have acquired two more
submarines armed with nuclear missiles. The Jews can now launch a
first strike and have nukes survive retaliation to strike again.

Now it isn't just George W. Bush arming and financing the IDF terrorists.
The German government paid 1/3 of the cost of the subs.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060824/ap_on_re_mi_ea/israel_deterring_iran

rw
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