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Claws Mail Rules (superb news reader software)
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Claws Mail Client
2022-01-11 12:06:49 UTC
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I tried claws-mail many years ago. I was not greatly impressed. But that was many years ago when the project was young.

Today I installed the recent version of claws-mail for testing. I am not disappointed. I am surprised.

On first run I set up a email account in the wizard. Then when the main window presented itself I clicked on 'Configuration' > 'Edit Accounts' and added a NNTP/Usenet account there. It is similar to its evil twin, Sylpheed, but claws-mail is much more finely tuned and now I won't touch Sylpheed which is no longer installed.

Claws-mail opens instantly, faster than my xed text editor. I am not exaggerating. It snaps right open at least twice as fast as xed, in about 1/3 of a second. Thunderbird takes anywhere from 5 to 15 seconds to present its interface depending on which computer I use.

After setting up a NNTP server and some fiddling with font and layout settings I clicked:

View > Layout > Small Screen

....... and the result is pure joy on both small and large screen.

The 'small screen' layout is beautifully simple and efficient. It almost exactly how I envision a perfect messaging interface. I see none of the problems of MOSHILLA DUNDERBURD / WUNDERTURD client.

I was really surprised at how well-designed claws-mail has become over the years. It is fast. Even on a low-powered device the interface responds instantly.

It will probably take 30+ minutes for a new user to check out all the options and set up the interface exactly so.

The number of options allows a very fine-grained tuning of the workflow.

I strongly recommend that seasoned Usenetizens and SysAdmins tell newbies to use claws-mail and try either the 'Small Screen' layout on FHD screens or the '3-column' layout if they have a 4K screen. Explain to them that after using it for an hour or so it will all solidify in their mind. Claws-mail is much superior to Thunderbird in design and integration.

$ echo "I'm hooked by the claws."
$ sudo apt-get purge thunderbird* -y
$ rm -rfv ~/.thunderbird &> /dev/toilet
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Claws-mail rules!
Johnny
2022-01-11 14:07:10 UTC
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On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 12:06:49 -0000 (UTC)
Post by Claws Mail Client
I tried claws-mail many years ago. I was not greatly impressed. But
that was many years ago when the project was young.
Today I installed the recent version of claws-mail for testing. I am
not disappointed. I am surprised.
On first run I set up a email account in the wizard. Then when the
main window presented itself I clicked on 'Configuration' > 'Edit
Accounts' and added a NNTP/Usenet account there. It is similar to its
evil twin, Sylpheed, but claws-mail is much more finely tuned and now
I won't touch Sylpheed which is no longer installed.
Claws-mail opens instantly, faster than my xed text editor. I am not
exaggerating. It snaps right open at least twice as fast as xed, in
about 1/3 of a second. Thunderbird takes anywhere from 5 to 15
seconds to present its interface depending on which computer I use.
View > Layout > Small Screen
....... and the result is pure joy on both small and large screen.
The 'small screen' layout is beautifully simple and efficient. It
almost exactly how I envision a perfect messaging interface. I see
none of the problems of MOSHILLA DUNDERBURD / WUNDERTURD client.
I was really surprised at how well-designed claws-mail has become
over the years. It is fast. Even on a low-powered device the
interface responds instantly.
It will probably take 30+ minutes for a new user to check out all the
options and set up the interface exactly so.
The number of options allows a very fine-grained tuning of the
workflow.
I strongly recommend that seasoned Usenetizens and SysAdmins tell
newbies to use claws-mail and try either the 'Small Screen' layout on
FHD screens or the '3-column' layout if they have a 4K screen.
Explain to them that after using it for an hour or so it will all
solidify in their mind. Claws-mail is much superior to Thunderbird in
design and integration.
$ echo "I'm hooked by the claws."
$ sudo apt-get purge thunderbird* -y
$ rm -rfv ~/.thunderbird &> /dev/toilet
I have used Claws Mail for the at least the last seven years. It's the
best Usenet client I have found. I like it mainly for its processing
and filtering rules, you can filter on anything in the headers.

For about the last two years Claws Mail had a problem with a
segmentation fault, it would freeze up and eventually shutdown. That
seems to have been corrected in version 4.0.0.
noscript
2022-01-13 19:57:25 UTC
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On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 08:07:10 -0600
Post by Johnny
For about the last two years Claws Mail had a problem with a
segmentation fault, it would freeze up and eventually shutdown. That
seems to have been corrected in version 4.0.0.
I'm using version 3.17.8 and I haven't seen any segfault so far.

Christian Schumacher
2022-01-11 16:21:31 UTC
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Post by Claws Mail Client
I strongly recommend that seasoned Usenetizens and SysAdmins tell newbies to use claws-mail and try either the 'Small Screen' layout on FHD screens or the '3-column' layout if they have a 4K screen. Explain to them that after using it for an hour or so it will all solidify in their mind. Claws-mail is much superior to Thunderbird in design and integration.
I'd suggest to fix From, Message-ID and line length.
Would make your ballyhoo more creditable.
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Christian

»Billige Sofas setzen sich mehr und mehr durch.«
Rockinghorse Winner
2022-01-13 12:44:59 UTC
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Post by Claws Mail Client
I tried claws-mail many years ago. I was not greatly impressed. But that was many years ago when the project was young.
Today I installed the recent version of claws-mail for testing. I am not disappointed. I am surprised.
On first run I set up a email account in the wizard. Then when the main window presented itself I clicked on 'Configuration' > 'Edit Accounts' and added a NNTP/Usenet account there. It is similar to its evil twin, Sylpheed, but claws-mail is much more finely tuned and now I won't touch Sylpheed which is no longer installed.
Claws-mail opens instantly, faster than my xed text editor. I am not exaggerating. It snaps right open at least twice as fast as xed, in about 1/3 of a second. Thunderbird takes anywhere from 5 to 15 seconds to present its interface depending on which computer I use.
View > Layout > Small Screen
....... and the result is pure joy on both small and large screen.
The 'small screen' layout is beautifully simple and efficient. It almost exactly how I envision a perfect messaging interface. I see none of the problems of MOSHILLA DUNDERBURD / WUNDERTURD client.
I was really surprised at how well-designed claws-mail has become over the years. It is fast. Even on a low-powered device the interface responds instantly.
It will probably take 30+ minutes for a new user to check out all the options and set up the interface exactly so.
The number of options allows a very fine-grained tuning of the workflow.
I strongly recommend that seasoned Usenetizens and SysAdmins tell newbies to use claws-mail and try either the 'Small Screen' layout on FHD screens or the '3-column' layout if they have a 4K screen. Explain to them that after using it for an hour or so it will all solidify in their mind. Claws-mail is much superior to Thunderbird in design and integration.
$ echo "I'm hooked by the claws."
$ sudo apt-get purge thunderbird* -y
$ rm -rfv ~/.thunderbird &> /dev/toilet
I remember using Claws (and Sylpheed) in my very early days of Linux, and liking it pretty
much. I've never like TBird - I think it is a bloated mess. But YMMV.
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"Many have sought in vain to tell joyously of the Most Joyous. Now at last It
declares Itself to me, now in this misery." - Holderlin
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